Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Josh Fox's "The Sky Is Pink"...Let's End Debate and Ban FRACKING


THE SKY IS PINK from JFOX on Vimeo.
Those who regularly read this blog know I am against fracking, are aware of my efforts to get Steve Veglianti and the Town Board to BAN FRACKING in the geographical/political footprint of Fallsburg.  Further, I support a state wide ban on fracking, and know the best way to ban fracking is not at the state level, but at the local level, with individual town, villages and cities banning fracking by changing their zoning laws to make fracking an unacceptable land use...such a move is not trying to regulate the industry, but instead uses a political subdivision to (as is allowed by state and federal law) to regulate land use.

Problem is, the (un)Natural Gas industry keeps everyone including our elected officials on the sidelines through multimillion dollar propaganda campaigns, and false counter claims in the media, thus creating what should be considered as FALSE DEBATE...this is a trick used by industry to keep concerned citizens on the sidelines.  After all, if the facts are in dispute, if their is a debate, people tend to wait for the debate to be resolved, and while this supposed debate (FALSE DEBATE) ensues, the (un) Natural Gas industry in this case pushes government to have as few regulations of their industry as they can get.

Enter Josh Fox, and  his newest video on fracking, "The Sky is Pink".  Every New Yorker needs to watch this movie, and study the documents (links provided) so that we can end the FALSE DEBATE, and move to an immediate ban of fracking in every community here in New York.

Earlier this year, the Town of Fallsburg Supervisor, and all of our town board members stated that they were opposed to fracking.  Now, some three months later, we are still waiting for the promised "Public Informational Meeting" and still waiting for them to PASS A BAN ON FRACKING.  If you live in the geographical footprint of Fallsburg, please contact your board members, the town supervisor, and demand that a ban on fracking be passed into law now, before our window of opportunity to protect our community is missed...which will happens once the state APPROVES FRACKING REGULATIONS.

The Sky is Pink  Document Cache

Industry Documents
Affirming GASLAND- Our responses to industry charges against GASLAND
gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking/affirming-gasland
1trickpony.cachefly.net/gas/pdf/Affirming_Gasland_Sept_2010.pdf
Flaming Faucets
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509857,00.html
hcn.org/blogs/goat/flaming-water/
cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-4879509.html
planetsave.com/2009/03/20/flammable-water-pours-from-faucets-in-colorado-home/
propublica.org/series/fracking
ecopolitology.org/2009/03/19/leaking-gas-well-causes-flammable-water-to-pour-from-faucets-in-colorado-home-video/
Well Failures/Gas Leaks
youtube.com/watch?v=fjaRwh4xRiM&feature=player_embedded
gasdrillinginbalcombe.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/44-of-wells-leaking-at-australian-gas-field/
nytimes.com/1992/05/03/us/abandoned-oil-and-gas-wells-become-pollution-portals.html?src=pm
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-17656307
frack-off.org.uk/gas-wells-leaking/
telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9168645/Total-admits-it-could-take-six-months-to-stop-gas-leak.html
Well Construction/Integrity
slb.com/~/media/Files/resources/oilfield_review/ors03/aut03/p62_76.ashx
boemre.gov/tarprojects/008/008DE.pdf
naturalgaswatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/well_integrity_failure_presentation.pdf
ptil.no/news/new-report-well-integrity-challenges-on-the-norwegian-shelf-article2762-79.html
spe.org/ejournals/jsp/journalapp.jsp?pageType=Preview&jid=EDC&mid=SPE-106817-PA
Climate Change
youtube.com/watch?v=XXyTpY0NCp0
Breast Cancer
texassharon.com/2011/09/02/big-gas-mafia-irony-burnsta-tas/
dentonrc.com/local-news/special-projects/gas-well-drilling-headlines/20110831-breast-cancer-rate-climbs-up.ece
damascuscitizensforsustainability.org/2011/09/breast-cancer-rates-jump-in-the-barnett-shale/
dallasdrilling.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/breast-cancer-rates-jump-in-the-barnett-shale/
abcalliance.org/?p=1725
nbc11news.com/home/headlines/85259117.html
Pittsburgh Fracking Ban
groundswell.gs/2011/10/28/city-councilman-doug-shields-on-the-success-of-pittsburghs-rights-based-fracking-ban/
Water Contamination
propublica.org/article/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422
bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-08/gas-fracking-chemicals-detected-in-wyoming-aquifer-epa-says.html
pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/04/19/gas-drilling-industry-makes-stunning-admission/
static.ewg.org/reports/2011/fracking/cracks_in_the_facade.pdf
pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/02/1100682108.full.pdf+html?sid=bde16321-e169-437d-a59c-798e7f65c479
grist.org/article/2011-02-28-pittsburgh-drinking-water-radioactive-fracking-natural-gas-times/
nytimes.com/2011/02/27/us/27gas.html?_r=1&ref=drillingdown
essentialpublicradio.org/story/2011-12-01/salts-drilling-drinking-water-danger-still-showing-rivers-9616
postindependent.com/article/20100813/VALLEYNEWS/100819931
Profiles/Contacts
cee.cornell.edu/people/profile.cfm?netid=ari1
history.ucsd.edu/people/faculty/oreskes-naomi.html
‘Drilling Down’
nytimes.com/interactive/us/DRILLING_DOWN_SERIES.html
PR/Hill and Knowlton
prwatch.org/spin/2009/11/8680/hill-knowltons-carbon-two-step
sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hill_%26_Knowlton
prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html
prwatch.org/search/node/knowlton
naturalgaswatch.org/?p=939
csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html
State Government Documents
mines.industry.qld.gov.au/assets/petroleum-pdf/tara_leaking_well_investigation_report.pdf
cogcc.state.co.us/Library/WQCC_WQCD_AnnualReports/WQCC09_10RPT.pdf
‘Reality Tour’ Marcellus Shale
youtube.com/watch?v=iPM64kseP30
Merchants of Doubt
bloomsburypress.com/books/catalog/merchants_of_doubt_hc_104
Colbert Report
mnn.com/earth-matters/politics/blogs/stephen-colbert-and-tom-ridge-get-awkward-over-fracking
desmogblog.com/tom-ridge-claimed-i-m-not-lobbyist-colbert-report-facts-prove-otherwise
keystonepolitics.com/2011/06/tom-ridge-shills-for-fracking-on-colbert-report/
Gas Industry Conference:
naturalgaswatch.org/?p=970

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The only reason those documents are hidden is because most of the people who buy into this crap can't read. (both sides of the debate) They just believe what they are told. The oil industry has an agenda because they want to keep drilling. Josh Fox has an agenda because he wants industry shut down.

Those so-called hidden documents were never hidden they take less than 5 minutes to find if you know how to run google. I haven't had time to read them all, but from what I did see they do not necessary indicate the possibility of water contamination. They are open ended technical papers pointing out problems and the authors are trying to identify solutions to those problems. The correct way to deal with a problem is to identify it and deal with it. (The old American way of life)

A ban on drilling will only serve to destroy a way of life, and is a "We can't attitude." Unfortunately people like Fox will not be the first to feel the effects of increased energy prices.

I work in the energy industry (NOT for an oil or gas company). I have worked with alternative and traditional energy sources. Fox and his followers are foolish to say the least. If this country is to survive we need utilize all of our energy resources. All energy production is an industrial process, and all of it carries significant risk.

I urge you to do your homework on this subject. Both sides have an agenda. If you want to know the truth you will have to read papers that are likely over your head. Fox spoon feeds BS and so do industry lobbyists. However, people within the industry publish papers to places like SPE, AAPG, JPT, GSA and many more. Tens of Thousands of scientists and engineers work to improve the process, and believe it or not they care about the environment. The papers Josh refers to are meant to be professional technical discussion among those who understand the topic (not taken out of context). Proposing that something is technically possible it not the same as saying it will happen. In addition, bad cement bonds do not indicate that there will be a leak. It is not ideal, but there are a lot of other factors.

Videos like this will serve to make industry even more reclusive in what they report because people who do not understand the topic will try to turn it into something it is not. (Josh likely understands the papers, but he is trying to push his agenda, but that is just my opinion of him.) I'm just as angry when industry takes the same approach.

The idea of New York allowing drilling in 5 counties is a good idea because it will allow the state time to develop a functioning regulatory agency with taxes generated from the drilling process. I also urge people on the east coast to identify your water sources and evaluate the risk involved with drilling. New York City is a good example because most of your water comes through an aqueduct system that is immune to possible contamination because it has positive pressure from the source, and the source will not likely be contaminated because it is too far north. Your water supply is tested daily.

If you want to know about fracking talk to geoscientist and engineers that have at least seen how the process works. Most of them will be happy to provide information. Industry PR companies, politicians, the media, and Josh Fox are not valid sources of information.

I will be happy to try to answer your questions or direct to someone who can. http://goethunder.com
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mountaindale guy · 665 weeks ago

Dear Ben:

You state:

A ban on drilling will only serve to destroy a way of life, and is a "We can't attitude." Just what way of life, and at what cost does preserving that way of life come with? I probably know a bit more than you are giving me credit for, and can give numerous examples of the energy industry giving false assurances, promising citizens they are going to use best industry standards, and acting like every thing is going to be OK until everything is not OK. The Fukishima accident is a prime example of this...I have personally filed numerous 2.206 Petitions with the NRC on matters nuclear, had those petitions dismissed with the commissioners saying A, B and C could never happen, but then it does happen. Right now, the NRC is trying to convince the public that we do not need to worrying about tritium leaks at nuclear reactors...tell that to the people who end up getting cancer from those very same tritium leaks. Sure, the number might be small, the industry and those in the enforcement field will say those cancers are within acceptable risk level, but acceptable for whom, and who takes care of those people that do get stricken with an industry related illness...CAN WE SAY NOBODY?

In your words, you admit:

All energy production is an industrial process, and all of it carries significant risk.

What if a community says, "We don't want that risk, are not willing to pay the price of that significant risk"? Should industry, their attorneys, and state/federal regulatory agencies be allowed to force our communities to accept that risk against our will. Nuclear is a prime example of this serious question...the NRC is rubber stamping license renewal applicants against the will of host communities in the name of a national energy policy, and in the name of corporate profits...is that fair?

Fact is, you, I and the Natural Gas Industry know that there is great risk in Hydraulic Fracturing. You, I and the Natural Gas industry know there are going to be a lot of negative health effects in communities where fracking takes place (which is why the industry opposes health studies as a part of the rule making). How many peoples health being negatively impacted, how many deaths per 1, 000 people is considered ACCEPTABLE in the name of oilg/gas industry profits, and our national energy policy?

Care to talk about waste streams? The (un) Natural Gas industry is wanting to walk down the same path that this nation has traveled down in dealing with Nuclear Industry Waste streams...some 50 plus years later the nuclear industry has yet to find and acceptable and workable means of dealing with their waste streams that will be around for millions of years after the last nuclear reactor is shut down...now we have the (un) Natural Gas industry wanting our government and our communities to allow them to FRACK NOW, and find answers later on.

As the old expression says, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me. I've lived in nuclear reactor communities, saw the harm...not willing to sit back again and let another industry pull the wool over my eyes.
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